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bad idea pre-iPhone, great idea after

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Framework

The Idea Maze is time-varying: bad ideas become great ones

Balaji's Idea Maze concept includes that the maze shifts over time, so a bad idea today can be a great one later. Pandora was only an okay idea pre-iPhone and became a billion-dollar company once the iPhone enabled ubiquitous audio everywhere.

The second bit is that the maze is time-varying. So, what's a bad idea today could be a good idea in the future or vice versa. For example, Pandora, pre-iPhone, was only an okay idea, and post-iPhone, it finally became a billion-dollar company.

Steal thisTime your idea to a coming epochal shift; the same idea can flip from bad to great when the platform arrives.

EP 178 · 1:42:21 · BALAJI SRINIVASAN
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Framework

Inflections: technology, belief, and platform openings create opportunity

Sam shares the inflection framework from a Gagan course: opportunities spike at technology inflections (internet enters every home), belief inflections (people stop trusting media), or platform inflections. He cites Pandora languishing for 3 years until Steve Jobs invited it onto the App Store.

There's technology inflections, which is like basically like, oh my God, the internet is now in everyone's house. That is an inflection. There's an opportunity there. Or a belief inflection is like, wow, people really don't trust the media. What can we build to help? Or people are afraid to be in groups of thousands of people. How can we fix that? What we are seeing right now is a technology inflection.

Steal thisWatch for technology, belief, and platform inflections, and build into the opening before others notice.

EP 83 · 25:57 · SAM
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Story

Pandora's founder did fan meetups Monday-Thursday for years to grow

Sam recounts meeting Pandora founder Tim Westergren, who grew the company by emailing users that he'd be at a library or coffee shop and inviting them to come talk. The first drew 2 people; the last drew 2,000-3,000, and the relationships drove advertiser growth city by city.

I would email people and I would say, I'm going to be at this library in New York at this time. Any Pandora users in the area come and talk to me. And he said he did that for 4 years. And he goes, here's the first one I did. And he showed me a picture of him at a coffee shop. He goes, 2 people showed up. And he goes, here's the last one I did. And he showed me a picture and it was at the library and there was 2 or 3,000 people there.

Steal thisDo unscalable in-person fan meetups repeatedly; the relationships and feedback compound into real growth.

EP 54 · 22:44 · SAM
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Prediction
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Pandora founder: even 'moms in Missouri' will care about data privacy

Sam relays a prediction from Pandora founder Tim Westergren that data and privacy concern won't stay a Silicon Valley niche - average mainstream users, even moms in Missouri, will start caring, making it a big consumer category.

And he goes, at Pandora, what we noticed— Pandora isn't like a hip company, like average people use it, not like Silicon Valley nerds. And he goes, even like moms in Missouri, where I'm from, would care about their data and privacy. And I think that's actually really going to be a big thing.
EP 36 · 22:58 · SAM
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Story

Pandora's founder deferred payroll 2 years and nearly went to jail

Sam tells how Pandora founder Tim Westergren deferred employee pay for two years during the company's dire stretch, raised $12M, paid back $5-6M of it, and faced lawsuits and hospital visits because not paying employees is actually illegal.

And he said like $5 or $6 million of that $12 million he had to give to the employees or back pay. Well, he was at the conference I went to and I've become friends with him since he spoke at HustleCon and he tells me stories. He was like, so that's actually illegal, not paying somebody.
EP 24 · 3:22 · SAM
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Number

Pandora's founder pitched 348 times before landing a Series B

Tim Westergren pitched Pandora 348 times before finding a Series B investor in March 2004, raising a $9 million round and paying out $2 million in deferred salary that same day.

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Investor pitches before funding · pitches
And eventually, after I pitched Pandora 348 times, I found a Series B investor in 2004, March of '04, raised a $9 million round, which I still don't quite know how it happened. Um, and we paid out $2 million of salary that day.
SPECIAL: A Breakdown On Why Most Startu… · Jun 2021 · 5:58 · TIM WESTERGREN
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Number

Pandora's founder pitched 348 times before landing a Series B

Tim Westergren pitched Pandora 348 times before finding a Series B investor in March 2004, raising a $9 million round and paying out $2 million in deferred salary that same day.

$348
Investor pitches before funding · pitches
And eventually, after I pitched Pandora 348 times, I found a Series B investor in 2004, March of '04, raised a $9 million round, which I still don't quite know how it happened. Um, and we paid out $2 million of salary that day.
SPECIAL: A Breakdown On Why Most Startu… · Jun 2021 · 5:58 · TIM WESTERGREN
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