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disrupts ESP pricing model

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Email marketing is just expensive hosting of zeros and ones

Kagan estimates ESPs pay roughly $0.00015-$0.002 per email sent, and frames email companies as very expensive hosting where the real profit comes from subscribers who never send. Substack and SendFox disrupt this by making sending free and monetizing elsewhere.

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$0.002. It might be $0.00015 times how many subscribers, how many emails they're sending a month. The profit is all in the people who don't email. It's basically, I think of email marketing companies as very expensive hosting. You're basically paying a lot of money to host zeros and ones and digits that don't cost anything.
EP 84 · 11:33 · NOAH KAGAN
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Would AppSumo be a $100M business if they'd never built side projects?

Kagan admits there's an internal debate that if all the time and money spent on SendFox, KingSumo, HaulDrop, and MeetFam had gone into AppSumo alone, it would likely be a $100M business today.

there's discussion internally that if we would have spent all the money and time that we built on SendFox and KingSumo and HaulDrop and MeetFam and all the things we've done just on AppSumo, the main thing, would it have been a $100 million business today? And the likelihood is, yeah.
EP 84 · 17:35 · NOAH KAGAN
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