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Logan Ury

Behavioral scientist and Director of Relationship Science at Hinge; bestselling author of dating book "How to Not Die Alone."

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#709Hinge expert shares dating advice for ambitious nerdsMay 21, 2025

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Framework

The secretary problem: search 37%, then commit

From optimal stopping theory: of 100 sequential candidates you must accept or reject on the spot, evaluate the first 37, set the best as your benchmark, then pick the next candidate who matches or beats it. Logan Ury applies it to dating as a rule against over-searching.

imagine that you're hiring a secretary and there's 100 candidates. You have to go through them one at a time. After each one, you have to say yes or no, and you can't go back. So at what point should you stop? So what they say is you should go through the first 37 people. And say, who is the single best candidate of those 37? And that person now becomes your benchmark. The next time that you find someone as good or better than that person, hire them.

Steal thisStop searching once you've seen ~37% of a pool; commit to the next option that beats your benchmark instead of chasing perfection.

EP 709 · 6:32 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

Satisficers vs maximizers: satisficers end up happier

Maximizers search exhaustively and then second-guess the decision; satisficers commit once a choice clears their bar. Research (Adam Grant) finds satisficers are happier and make equally good decisions.

the research shows that between maximizers and satisficers, satisficers are often happier because it's not that they settle or have a low bar, it's that when they find something that meets their bar, they just buy it or accept it or move in, whatever the matter is. And so maximizers, maximizers, it takes them longer to make a decision. And once they make it, they question it. And satisficers know what they want. And then when they find it, they're happy with it.

Steal thisSet a clear bar in advance; the moment something clears it, commit and stop comparing.

EP 709 · 8:26 · LOGAN URY
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Fact

College is 60% women, heading to two-thirds

Women now make up 60% of US college enrollment, projected toward two-thirds. Combined with hypergamy (women seeking equal-or-higher-status partners), this creates a 'mating crisis' where roughly half of college-educated women lack an equivalent male partner.

right now, 60% of enrollment in college is women. Soon it's gonna be two-thirds. So what that means is that when it's two-thirds women, half of those women won't have an equivalent guy. With a college degree. So you really have an issue where women want a certain type of guy and that guy doesn't exist.
EP 709 · 13:47 · LOGAN URY
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Fact

College is 60% women, heading to two-thirds

Women now make up 60% of US college enrollment, projected toward two-thirds. Combined with hypergamy (women seeking equal-or-higher-status partners), this creates a 'mating crisis' where roughly half of college-educated women lack an equivalent male partner.

right now, 60% of enrollment in college is women. Soon it's gonna be two-thirds. So what that means is that when it's two-thirds women, half of those women won't have an equivalent guy. With a college degree. So you really have an issue where women want a certain type of guy and that guy doesn't exist.
EP 709 · 13:47 · LOGAN URY
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Number

Only 14% of US men are 6 feet or taller

Many women set a dating-app height filter at 6 feet, but only 14% of US men meet it, effectively filtering out the vast majority of male users before they're ever seen.

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a lot of women set their height filter at 6 feet or taller, and only 14% of the men in the US are 6 feet or taller. So you have women coming up to me at dinner parties holding up their phone saying, I'm on Hinge, where's my husband? Where is he? And I'm like, yeah, he can't even get into your app. Because he's 5'9" and you're filtering him out. It's like your app is a bouncer.
EP 709 · 17:53 · LOGAN URY
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Tactic

Your dating profile is a billboard on the 101

Logan Ury argues the profile matters more than anything else: treat the first photo like an expensive billboard, with a clear face, no filters, no sunglasses. Because male profile quality is so low, following the basics puts you ahead of 90% of men.

your profile is far and beyond the thing that matters the most because it's like you were buying a billboard on the 101 in the Bay Area. Like, what are you going to put on that expensive billboard? So you want to have a really good first photo that clearly shows your face, no filters, no sunglasses, and You should invest in a good photo. It doesn't have to be a professional photo, but people wanna see what you look like. And honestly, the quality of male profiles is so low that if you just follow these instructions, you're gonna be better off than 90% of guys.

Steal thisInvest in one sharp, well-lit, filter-free face photo; profile quality is so low you'll beat 90% of men on basics alone.

EP 709 · 20:27 · LOGAN URY
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Tactic

Comment on the lower prompt to stand out

On dating apps, send a thoughtful comment with each like rather than blasting bare likes for quantity. Because most guys lazily comment only on the first photo or prompt, scrolling down and commenting on something lower gives you a higher chance of being original.

Another insider tip that I've heard is that guys are often lazy and they only comment on like the first picture or the first prompt on a girl's profile. So if you actually scroll down and you comment on something lower, you have a higher chance of being more original because fewer people have just ever commented on that.

Steal thisSkip the first photo; comment on something lower in the profile where few others have, and always attach a comment to your like.

EP 709 · 25:05 · LOGAN URY
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Take

Gen Z wants to meet IRL but lacks rejection resilience

Younger daters say they want to meet people the old-fashioned way but rarely do, because helicopter and snowplow parenting and forgiving institutions left them without rejection resilience. Logan ties this to a post-MeToo confusion over the confident-vs-creepy line.

there's this huge problem with the younger daters that I talk to where they lack rejection resilience. So, you know, this goes down a whole pathway of parenting, but you know, they had these helicopter parents, they had these snowplow parents that kind of plowed the way for them and they never had to deal with issues. They had colleges that bended to every will, and if their dog had an ear infection, they didn't have to turn in a paper.
EP 709 · 27:11 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

Power of weak ties: acquaintances introduce you to your spouse

Just as you're more likely to find a job through an acquaintance than a close friend (whose network overlaps yours), weak ties are also how people meet partners. Logan's takeaway: expand your network deliberately to multiply the chance a weak tie introduces you to your spouse.

there's this concept called the power of weak ties, which is the idea that you're much more likely to get a job from an acquaintance than from one of your close friends because your close friends have such overlapping lives with you that they know the same opportunities you know. But an acquaintance who you met at a wedding a few years ago and still are Instagram friends with, they might know something that you don't know. And the same thing is true with dating.

Steal thisDeliberately widen your network (volunteer, join boards, make new friends) so more weak ties can introduce you to a partner.

EP 709 · 29:07 · LOGAN URY
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Tactic

Avoid the ZQ date: ask questions back

Women report 'ZQ' (zero questions) dates where the man answers questions but never asks any back. The fix is simple: when she asks you something, ask it back and make her feel interesting. Effort, not perfection, is what women say they actually want.

a lot of women say to me, I go on dates that are ZQ, zero questions. They ask the guy tons of questions and the guys didn't ask them a single question. And then when I talk to guys, hey, how did this happen? They say, well, she asked me a question. If she wanted to answer it, she should have just answered it already. And I was like, no, ask her the question back. Make her feel interesting.

Steal thisWhen she asks you a question, ask it back; never run a zero-questions date.

EP 709 · 33:58 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

Date like a scientist: run experiments on your 'type'

Treat your stated preferences as hypotheses, not requirements. If you insist on a partner with a graduate degree, deliberately date people without one to test whether the real trait you want (e.g., intellectual curiosity) is just being proxied. The goal is to learn who actually makes you happy long-term.

date like a scientist just means be willing to run experiments and see what works. So if the business equivalent is throwing up a landing page or running some Google ads, then that's what this is in dating. So let's say that I'm coaching a guy and he says, okay, well, I need a woman who has a graduate degree, then I'll say, okay, date like a scientist, date someone without graduate degrees. Maybe what you're actually looking for is someone who's intellectually curious and you're using a graduate degree as a proxy for that.

Steal thisTreat each item on your 'type' checklist as a hypothesis and deliberately date against it to find the real underlying trait you want.

EP 709 · 39:44 · LOGAN URY
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Fact

Arranged marriages overtake love marriages at the 5-year mark

Research comparing love and arranged marriages finds love marriages start happier, but around year five arranged marriages are happier, because committed partners treat the relationship as permanent and work problems out rather than treating failure as an option.

when you compare love marriages versus arranged marriages, love marriages usually start off happier, but around the 5-year mark, arranged marriages are happier. And it's exactly what you said, Sam. It's the fact that you're committed and you're in it and you don't consider failure as an option.
EP 709 · 41:44 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

Fuck the spark: chase the slow burn instead

Logan Ury's signature framework debunks three myths about the dating 'spark': that feelings can't grow if absent at first (only ~10% feel love at first sight), that a spark is always good (some people are 'sparky' with everyone, even narcissists), and that a spark means the relationship is viable. The antidote is the 'slow burn'-give some attraction time to grow.

the myth is, if I don't feel it from the beginning, it can't grow. And that's absolutely not true. Only 11% Only 10% of people experience love at first sight, and many people develop feelings over time, which is why people marry someone in their apartment building, marry someone at work. It grows over time. Second myth is if you feel the spark, it's a good thing. That's also not always true. Some people are just really sparky.

Steal thisDon't ditch a date over a missing spark; if there's any attraction, give the slow burn a second and third date.

EP 709 · 45:30 · LOGAN URY
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Prediction
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AI companions will make human dating feel too hard

Logan predicts that as AI glasses, realistic sex robots, and sycophantic AI companions lower the friction of digital relationships, the effort required for human relationships will feel disproportionately hard, and fewer people will date and mate.

as the friction gets lower and lower and lower to having a digital spouse or partner, then the effort that's required for human relationships just feels extra hard. And like, that is a thing that I'm worried about because if you don't have the motivation, if you're just watching Twitch and watch other people live their lives and like are people just going to slowly die off because we're not actually dating and mating?
EP 709 · 52:50 · LOGAN URY
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Take

Emotional intelligence is the new currency in dating

Logan argues that being a provider is no longer enough: as women carry both work and domestic labor, men now need emotional intelligence they were never taught, while being penalized when vulnerability reads as weakness. The genders are blurring and dating hasn't caught up.

no longer is a guy being a provider enough. And that's what it was for a long time. So you now need to be emotionally intelligent. So emotional intelligence is the new currency in dating. But guys were not raised to do that. They were not told how to be emotionally intelligent. They were basically told from a young age, be successful, be a provider, make money. And now the game has changed and they're caught without those skills.
EP 709 · 53:44 · LOGAN URY
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Tactic

Start a men's group: 6 guys, monthly, Post-it check-in

Logan champions men's groups as better than therapy for many men because therapists are mostly female and a council of male peers creates real growth. The format: ~6 men meet monthly, silently write what's top of mind on Post-its, surface the most present issues, give feedback, and hold each other accountable.

So a year ago, my husband joined one. Our good friend David Clavin started it, and it's about 6 men. They meet once a month. They go around and they each silently write down on some Post-it notes what's top of mind for them. Then they go around and whoever has kind of the things that are most present for them and really wants to take up space, they let those people talk. They give them feedback, and it's really a great place for men to be angry, for men to be sad, for men to create this council of peers, and then they hold each other accountable.

Steal thisFind a few men you respect, commit to meeting monthly, do a silent Post-it check-in, and hold each other accountable.

EP 709 · 56:34 · LOGAN URY
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Resource

Relationship-science reading list: Gottman, Perel, de Botton

Logan's recommended sources for leveling up relational skills: Alain de Botton (School of Life, Diary of a CEO episode), Esther Perel's 'Mating in Captivity,' and John and Julie Gottman, the foundational scientists behind much modern relationship research and the Love Lab.

Esther Perel is one of the GOATs here, and her book, Mating in Captivity, has changed a lot of people's lives. Really the godmother, godfather of relationship science, the scientific study of all this stuff, are John and Julie Gottman. And they really set the bar for all of this information. And so much of the research that I and other people quote is really from them.
EP 709 · 1:00:53 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

The Gottman 'bid': turn toward your partner

Gottman research shows relationships live in tiny daily 'bids' for connection-a sigh, a comment-to which a partner can turn toward, turn away, or turn against. Couples in happy long marriages turn toward each other 86% of the time; relationship disasters do so only 33% of the time.

they talk about this concept of a bid. So a bid could be something really small. It could be that Sam walks into the room where Sarah's on her laptop and she sighs. And that's a bid from Sarah for Sam to say, "Oh no, what's going on?" And Sam can do one of three things. He can turn towards her and say, "What's happening?" He can turn away from her or ignore it, or he can turn against her and be like, "Why are you making so much sound? You know, I'm on an important phone call." And so life is really about these interactions. And so successful couples that have happy long marriages, they turn towards each other, 86% of the time.

Steal thisTreat your partner's small sighs and comments as bids for connection and consciously turn toward them.

EP 709 · 1:03:50 · LOGAN URY
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Framework

Support response vs shift response

When someone shares news, a 'shift response' pulls the spotlight back to you ('I went to Lake Tahoe last summer'), while a 'support response' helps them go deeper ('How did you choose Lake Tahoe?'). People appreciate support responses more because they signal curiosity and make the other person feel interesting.

there's a good term for what you're talking about, which is a shift versus support response. I think a lot of people, especially men, get this wrong. So let's say a woman says, oh, I'm going to Lake Tahoe this summer. The guy's like, cool, I'm gonna seem interested and add onto that by saying, I went to Lake Tahoe last summer. That's actually shifting the energy back towards yourself. What women and people in general like is when you help them go deeper and you say, how did you choose Lake Tahoe? Have you ever been there before? What are you most looking forward to?

Steal thisWhen someone shares something, resist topping it; ask a follow-up that lets them go deeper instead.

EP 709 · 1:06:47 · LOGAN URY
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Tactic

Best first date: a drink and a walk, not dinner or coffee

Logan's first-date advice: dinner is too intense and coffee feels like a job interview. Better to grab an interesting (maybe non-alcoholic) drink and go for a walk or do something fun like pickleball, so there's no forced eye contact and people relax.

Dinner's too intense. I think coffee feels too much like a job interview. What if you go get an interesting, maybe non-alcoholic drink somewhere and go for a walk? I think people have really great conversations when they don't have to make this direct eye contact or just go, go do something fun. Go play pickleball and kind of shake out your sillies

Steal thisPlan a first date as a drink plus a walk or activity, not a sit-down dinner or coffee interrogation.

EP 709 · 1:12:48 · LOGAN URY
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