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Mike Posner

Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter known for "I Took a Pill in Ibiza" and "Cooler Than Me."

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#640How Mike Posner built a music empire from his dorm roomOct 25, 2024

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Framework

The three-audience signal: Mom, the scene, and a peer all like it

Posner realized he had a hit when three disconnected audiences praised the same song: the hip-hop blogs, the sorority girls at parties, and his mom plus his rapper friend Big Sean. When wildly different groups converge on one thing, that convergence is the signal.

I said, hold on, if Sean, Mom, and the sorority girls all like the same song, something's going on here that never happened before. Because I've been making music 12 years and nobody seemed to particularly give a fuck besides me, including my mom, right?

Steal thisTrust the signal when three audiences that share nothing in common all love the same thing.

EP 640 · 4:09 · MIKE POSNER
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Framework

The three-audience signal: Mom, the scene, and a peer all like it

Posner realized he had a hit when three disconnected audiences praised the same song: the hip-hop blogs, the sorority girls at parties, and his mom plus his rapper friend Big Sean. When wildly different groups converge on one thing, that convergence is the signal.

I said, hold on, if Sean, Mom, and the sorority girls all like the same song, something's going on here that never happened before. Because I've been making music 12 years and nobody seemed to particularly give a fuck besides me, including my mom, right?

Steal thisTrust the signal when three audiences that share nothing in common all love the same thing.

EP 640 · 4:09 · MIKE POSNER
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Fact

Labels now only sign artists who already have an audience

Posner explains the music industry inverted: labels no longer develop unknown talent over years. Because there's so much data, a deal now requires the artist to already have built an audience, so developing fans is the artist's job, not the label's.

And now it's even more so. You only get a record deal if you already have an audience. So that no longer is, you know, the responsibility of the label. That's now the responsibility of the artist. And there's so much data now, right? So labels can be really prudent.
EP 640 · 20:25 · MIKE POSNER
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Take

Labels can't start fires, but they pour gasoline

Posner's framing of how record labels actually add value: they're bad at starting a hit from nothing, but once an artist proves a song can catch on, the label has enormous resources to accelerate it everywhere.

And that's what labels are great at. They're not so great at starting fires, but if you could start a fire, they got a hell of a lot of gasoline.
EP 640 · 21:45 · MIKE POSNER
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Take

Labels can't start fires, but they pour gasoline

Posner's framing of how record labels actually add value: they're bad at starting a hit from nothing, but once an artist proves a song can catch on, the label has enormous resources to accelerate it everywhere.

And that's what labels are great at. They're not so great at starting fires, but if you could start a fire, they got a hell of a lot of gasoline.
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Take

Make what's beautiful to you; sometimes the world agrees

Posner's core creative philosophy and the advice he gives struggling artists: make the thing you think is beautiful, period, not what your manager, fans, or anyone else thinks. Whenever he tried to reverse-engineer a hit, the only thing he succeeded in making was something he hated.

I tell them, you know, your job is to make the thing that you think is beautiful, period. That's it. Don't do what I think is beautiful, or you, or your manager, or your fans.
EP 640 · 26:05 · MIKE POSNER
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Story

Financial security made Posner a better artist

Posner says being financially secure (never needing another dollar from music) let him tell the voice in his head he never had to make a song he didn't want to make, or work with people he wasn't a fan of, ever again. That freedom made him a much better artist.

I'm financially secure. I don't need to make another dollar from my music again. So logically, I was able to just talk to— at some point in the past, talk to that part of that voice in my head and go, hey dude, like, you never need to make a song that you don't want to make ever again. You never need to be in the studio with a person you're not a fan of ever again. Ever. And that made me a much better artist.
EP 640 · 38:05 · MIKE POSNER
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Framework

Life is a multi-vertical game; work points don't carry over

Posner's biggest mistake in his 20s was assuming that crushing it in the work-and-fame vertical would let the points carry over to the others (intimacy, friendship, family, health). They don't; winning life means playing every vertical, each requiring different skills.

And the thing I screwed up in my 20s is I thought if I crushed it so hard in this vertical, meaning I got all the fame, all the money, that I thought the points would carry over.

Steal thisScore each life vertical separately; don't assume career wins buy you relationships, health, or meaning.

EP 640 · 41:00 · MIKE POSNER
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Framework

Turn a bad day into a great one: alchemize suffering into service

After a brutal 7-hour traffic jam and missed flight, Posner used a Tony Robbins breakout prompt ('what could I do to make this a great day?') to go volunteer at a recovery house in Denver instead of having a pity party, turning a bad day into one of the best of his year.

when you're having a bad day, ask yourself, what could I do to make this a great day?

Steal thisWhen a day goes bad, ask 'what could I do to make this a great day?' and convert the suffering into service for someone else.

EP 640 · 48:17 · MIKE POSNER
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Framework

Set an external goal and an internal 'how do I want to feel' goal

Posner's two-goal model (drawing on Viktor Frankl): you need an external goal that genuinely inspires you to look forward to the future, but you also need an internal goal for how you want to feel while pursuing it. Most people only set the external one and lose the depth axis of life.

Hey, set a, set a goal that actually inspires you. That's Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning. You need something in the future looking forward to. It's important. At the same time, you need to be winning this internal game of, hey, that's my goal. But how do I want to feel as I'm going after it? That's a different kind of goal that, that interweaves with your external goal.

Steal thisPair every ambitious external goal with an internal goal for how you want to feel while chasing it.

EP 640 · 1:14:20 · MIKE POSNER
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