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Peter Rahal

Founder who built RXBAR and sold it to Kellogg for $600M, and is now founder and CEO of high-protein brand David.

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#639The $600M Protein Bar Founder is Back Again | Peter Rahal InterviewOct 18, 2024

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In the moments

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Tactic

Use an emerging, uncompetitive niche as your beachhead distribution

Rahal couldn't crack hypercompetitive Whole Foods, so he targeted CrossFit gyms, a tiny but fast-growing channel with no competition where only paleo products were allowed on the shelf.

Whereas CrossFit emerged, these gyms are popping up 2012, '13, no competition. You were not allowed on the shelf if you weren't paleo. So that, that was like the perfect example of an uncompetitive market, a small market that was growing like crazy that we could go build distribution in and we can make the product at home. So we just went for it.

Steal thisFind a small, fast-growing channel with no incumbents to win distribution before you tackle the mass market.

EP 639 · 2:38 · PETER RAHAL
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Number

80 bars/week at a CrossFit gym vs 1-4 at a grocery store

RXBAR sold roughly 80 bars a week at a single CrossFit gym versus only 1-4 a week at convenience and grocery stores, proving where to focus distribution.

$80
Bars sold per CrossFit gym · bars/week
So like velocities at a CrossFit gym would be maybe 80, 80 bars a week, whereas the convenience store and the local grocery store was like 1 or 4 a week.
EP 639 · 6:42 · PETER RAHAL
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Story

Timing the rebrand to retail took RXBAR from $36M to $161M

RXBAR's original branding only worked with core CrossFit early adopters; pairing a rebrand with the retail push drove revenue from $36M to $161M in a year.

So basically we timed the rebranding with retail. And so There was a year before the 160 one that was 36, and that was basically like getting into, call it early adopters of food retail. So the Wegmans and these like Publix, these regional ones that are really high quality. And then once that works, the larger ones adopted. And so it was like 36 and then the most of the market at 161.
EP 639 · 8:11 · PETER RAHAL
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Framework

The brand owner, not the agency, must write the brief

Rahal argues founders who hire a rebrand agency wrongly expect the agency to do the thinking; the brand owner is accountable for articulating the problem to solve in a brief, and the creative just solves it.

But really, the responsibility and accountability goes on the brand owner to articulate the problem to solve and to communicate it in a brief for the assignment for the creative to figure out how to solve the problem.

Steal thisBefore hiring a design agency, write the brief yourself: define the exact problem and what matters, then let them execute.

EP 639 · 10:07 · PETER RAHAL
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Tactic

Lead with the back-of-label ingredient story, not nutrition claims

Every gluten-free/soy-free/high-protein claim fell flat in sampling; what made people get RXBAR was flipping the package over to read the simple ingredient list. They minimized the logo and led with egg whites for premium association.

And the only thing mattered is when I flip over the back. It's 8 RX bars. Like, what is it? And be like, it's like eating 3 egg whites, 2 dates, 6 almonds, 4 cashews. So that back of label thing that I referenced earlier, that was the value communication.

Steal thisCommunicate value through your transparent ingredient list rather than generic nutrition badges.

EP 639 · 10:40 · PETER RAHAL
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Take

Never be a fast-follower in a breakthrough category

Rahal says the category he'd run from is fast-following a winner like Liquid Death or Olipop; you have to be the first one into the controversial, disagreeable new thing to win big.

Fast, anything fast following, like following Liquid Death, following Olipop. You got, you got to be the first one in the controversial disagreeable thing. You can't, you know.
EP 639 · 25:29 · PETER RAHAL
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Idea

Build the coffee of sleep and own the night occasion

Rahal sees the morning occasion as fully owned (coffee, sunlight, supplements) but the sleep/night occasion as wide open; there's no dominant consumable brand for winding down at night.

And so sleep hygiene and the sleep occasion is something that's become very clear that's super important. And if you look at that, to me it's a wide open, like there isn't a coffee of the sleep occasion.

Steal thisCreate a nightly ritual beverage to own the sleep occasion the way coffee owns the morning.

EP 639 · 27:18 · PETER RAHAL
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Idea

Continuous testosterone monitor for the American male

Rahal pitches a wearable or continuous way to track testosterone and hormones each morning, arguing American men care intensely about T levels and would create strong demand, analogous to a continuous glucose monitor.

But if you were to have some way to measure testosterone or some broader hormones in a continuous way, so like when you wake up, you monitor it, like I think there's a, there's a lot of demand for that. And I think the American male would love that.

Steal thisBuild a continuous hormone monitor for men, positioned like Levels did for glucose.

EP 639 · 32:53 · PETER RAHAL
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Story

Rahal tried synthetic biology, hit a wall, and went back to bars

After RXBAR, Rahal explored other industries like synthetic biology, but realized he couldn't learn the science the way Elon implied anyone could. He refuses to run a business where he can't personally pick up the phone to fix a problem, so he returned to protein bars.

And I'm never going to start a business where I have to pick up the phone to fix a problem. Like if I can't, don't have the competency to fix the problem or understand it, it's like a position I'll never want to be in.

Steal thisOnly start a business where you have the competency to personally diagnose and fix the core problem.

EP 639 · 42:33 · PETER RAHAL
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Number

David protein bar: $8B TAM and a clear path to $1B in sales

Rahal pegs the protein subcategory at roughly an $8 billion TAM and says he sees a clear path to $1 billion in top-line sales for David by converting non-protein-bar consumers into the category.

$8000M
Protein subcategory TAM · USD
So the market, I think it's like a, say, $8 billion TAM, the protein subcategory. I— for me, the big exciting opportunity is to convert non-protein bar people and bring them into the category.
EP 639 · 52:34 · PETER RAHAL
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